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HikerFedExParticipantSeptember 8, 2017 at 10:44 amPost count: 31HikerFedExParticipantSeptember 8, 2014 at 1:57 amPost count: 31HikerFedExParticipantSeptember 7, 2014 at 12:31 pmPost count: 31HikerFedExParticipantSeptember 17, 2013 at 1:57 pmPost count: 31
Dont feel bad. We reluctantly took ours down early on Moosilauke also, as the steady mist & strong winds had chilled many of our group to the bone. Our large flag flew roughly 11:30-1pm on the main summit, and a 2nd flag on the South Peak from about 10-1:30pm.
:flag:HikerFedExParticipantSeptember 8, 2013 at 11:49 pmPost count: 31HikerFedExParticipantSeptember 1, 2012 at 1:42 amPost count: 31
Most likely we will choose one of these routes:
1.The Pine Link Trail, which ascends Mt. Madison from the highest point of the Pinkham B (Dolly Copp) Rd.
2.Daniel Webster-Scout Trail, which begins on the main campground road, 0.9 mi. south of the Dolly Copp Campground entrance on the Pinkham B (Dolly
Copp) Rd., on the left in another 0.1 mi.
Both are about 4 miles, +4000 ft of elevation gain, 4 hours book time.
We will meet @6am, divide up gear, and head out no later than 6:30am.
We hope to be up top by 1030 or 11am; It’s our hope to have our flag up flying within 30 minutes, hold our brief ceremony immediately, then head out to Adams for lunch!
If anybody else is planning to join us please give us a shout or txt.
:flag: :flag: :flag: :flag: :flag: :flag:HikerFedExParticipantAugust 18, 2012 at 11:16 amPost count: 31HikerFedExParticipantAugust 14, 2012 at 5:05 pmPost count: 31
So far guy lines weren’t an issue since so far our biggest flag’s height was 10′ or less. Guyed out just below flag & also 1 tethered at very top of pole ( which could require slight adjustment in major wind directional shift). Now a larger flag w a height of say 15-20′ with a 30-40′ pole could be more of an issue, though you could try topmost guys at very steep angle close to the pole – less effective as guy wires, but might allow just enough flag rotation without tangling. Otherwise the top 15-20′ (matching the flag height) would have to be very rigid without guy lines, placing much more stress at the point just below the flag
Our issue in pole design has been difficulty erecting (standing up) a strong enough tall enough pole in the 30+’ foot range.
We contemplated using a tall forked “assist stick” maybe 10-15′ to help push up the upper part of the tall pole. (cranes are usually much taller than poles they help erect)
In trials for Zealand a 30-34′ x 2″ PVC pole formed an inverted “U” when we tried standing it up, using our hands over our heads to “walk it up” like a ladder, forcing us to abort that plan. Hence why we switched to 3″ PVC 20′ pole for Adams.
Hmmmm….maybe THAT’S an idea – 25-35′ aluminum ladders are pretty easy for 1 person to walk up solo (when collapsed), then extend to full height. So that’s 2 concepts – telescoping AFTER vertical & build a ladder or 3 sided tower for strength
Other ideas?? Experience??
:flag: :flag: :flag:HikerFedExParticipantAugust 13, 2012 at 8:55 pmPost count: 31
And hard hats !!HikerFedExParticipantAugust 10, 2012 at 7:45 pmPost count: 31
HECK NO!! I suspect your record 30’x45′ will stand for some time. I’d thought of borrowing a super huge flag from one of several huge car dealerships locally but it becomes impractical to fly it – not only due to wind issues & pole strength required but the diagonal length when not flying cant touch the ground, making the minimum mast height impractical. My original 8×12 ‘s draped diagonal length only requires about 14+ feet of mast height – that’s easy . I’ve flown that from a 27 foot (Zealand) & a 20 ft (Adams) mast.
This years new flag is only 10’x19′ – it’s diagonal requiring a minimum mast height of 21.5 feet – quite doable. But with big flags tall masts become a bigger challenge due to flexing and more importantly standing it up becomes a challenge. I’m still experimenting with options but likely our mast will be about 25.
10×19 doesn’t sound much bigger than 8×12 but side by side it dwarfs it impressively.
I think a 15×25 with a diagonal of 29 ft might be a real challenge but possible- with a 30+foot mast & a good team. But they’re super expensive
This year should be impressive I think, though it’s humbling how tiny they all look in the Whites!
Update: Sadly, 2012 was anticipated to be a very windy year, so we downsized the pole & opted for the 8’x12′ flag the night before. And we barely were able to “fly” it in the high winds atop Madison
Update: 2013 Moosilauke – Success!! Planted the 8×12 Flag on a 16′ pole atop South Moosilauke on the way up, then the 10’x19′ atop a 24′ x 3″ PVC pole atop Moosilauke in pretty intense winds!! Awesome Teamwork !! :flag:
:flag: :flag: :flag: :flag:HikerFedExParticipantAugust 7, 2012 at 1:59 pmPost count: 31HikerFedExParticipantSeptember 14, 2011 at 12:15 pmPost count: 31HikerFedExParticipantSeptember 14, 2011 at 12:12 pmPost count: 31HikerFedExParticipantAugust 30, 2011 at 2:25 pmPost count: 31
So here’s an update….
the small “camping” group will take Lowe’s Path to Gray Knob and reside overnite Saturday (backup option is Crag Camp), then finish the assault Sunday morning with us.
The Sunday morning hiking group will take Lowe’s Path.
AMC Guidebook estimates:
3.2 miles ~3hours 10min,gaining 3050ft to Gray Knob
1.5 miles ~1hours 20min, gaining 1400ft to Mt Adams
4.7miles ~4 1/2hours, gaining 5450ft total to Mt Adams
That’s a pretty steep climb, but great views.
Our assignment is to hoist our flag by 12pm flying it until 2pm;
Therefore I recommend an early start Sunday…
Plan to park (probably at Lowe’s Store) & be ready to hike @ 7am;
Not much to carry, but we’ll gladly share the load.
If you’re not there by 7am, we’ll start up & see you up top. We’ll meet the campers along the way or up top.
If you have other plans, kindly email, call, or text a heads up. Glad to have you along.
Bring snacks, cameras, Patriotic “stuff”, etc.!
:flag: :flag: :flag: :flag:HikerFedExParticipantSeptember 15, 2010 at 3:16 amPost count: 31
We wondered that too. I’m sure half mast is more appropriate for true respect. But it would pose serious logistics in some cases – namely the taller masts and wooded summits.
I suppose in theory we could add lightweight weaker mast sections to the top of our poles, to simulate flying our FOT48 at half mast. (For those of us who use a halyard/pulley system we could add a lightweight top section to very briefly raise the flag to full mast, the quickly lower it to the stronger half mast height.
Any thoughts??? 8)